HOME  FORUMS  GALLERY  GARAGE  TECH  CHAT  CLASSIFIEDS  LINKS  MEMBER MAP  SPORTBIKE-DATABASE  CRUISER-DATABASE
REGISTER CALENDAR INFO SITE HELP ARCADE TELL-A-FRIEND STAFF CONTACT US

Go Back   Motorcycle Forums > Motorcycle Style > Sportbikes > General Sportbikes

General Sportbikes General Talk about Sportbikes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 05-03-2011, 11:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
Everything in Moderation
Points: 7,930, Level: 62 Points: 7,930, Level: 62 Points: 7,930, Level: 62
Activity: 43% Activity: 43% Activity: 43%
 
kevin_stevens's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: I'm right here!
Motorcycles': S1000RR, Buell 1125CR
Posts: 1,866
Casino cash: $26535
Rep Power: 4
kevin_stevens is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to kevin_stevens
Default How to load a bike into a pickup without ending up on YouTube.

After twenty or so trackdays, I've got this down. It requires a bit of investment, but reduces the odds of compound fractures, bike drops, and pickup damage to an absolute minimum. And you can do it yourself. And loading/unloading the bike no longer has to be the scariest part of the track day.

Ramps - I don't have even close to the skills necessary to balance a bike on a 6" ramp while I push or power it up and step onto a cooler and then the bed of the pickup. Disaster waiting to happen. If you can do this reliably and repeatedly, give up trackdays and get a job on the high wire in the circus. Instead, I use a *real* set of ramps.



These are 9' arched ramps. They fold in half, are aluminum, and in three sections so you can lift them easily. They are wide enough that you can sit on the bike normally and slowly walk it up under power. The ridged rungs are not wide enough apart to worry about your foot slipping through and having a catastrophic fall. The pad prevents tailgate scratching, I will eventually glue rubber pads to the ramp lips.

You should *always* strap a ramp to the tow vehicle before use. If you don't, sooner or later it will fall off the tailgate along with you and the motorcycle. Not good. The ratchet strap is run parallel to the ground to a hard point on the truck frame, in this case the safety chain mount on the trailer hitch. You see in the second photo that I connect the three sections of the ramps together at the same time, this prevents them from sliding apart.





The final piece is how to hold the bike in place once it's in the bed. You can do this by simply running tiedowns to suitable low/forward locations and pulling the front wheel against the front of the bed. However, I always worry about the wheel cocking during travel when I do that, and since I don't have my own truck, I have to adapt to whatever tiedown points are available. Because of this, I highly recommend a wheel chock. Shown is the Baxley Sport Chock, which is superior to all others in reliability, fit, weight and size. It is, however, expensive. A cheap substitute from Harbor Freight or Cycle Gear will work just as well, it's just not as nice. In the picture I have a yellow piece of poly in front of the chock just to be sure it doesn't touch the bed of the pickup since it's a rental. Not really necessary.

Here's how it looks all ready to go. Confidence-inspiring, isn't it?



Now we just ride the bike slowly up the ramp and into the chock...



Once it's in the chock, it isn't going anywhere. However, the whole shooting match can and will still fall over during the dynamics of cornering, braking, etc. So you still need to tie down, though not with the vigor and concern required if you don't use a chock. I use a Cycle Cynch to provide tie down points at the bar ends. Other people use other methods, that's fine. I use the CC because the original Canyon Dancers pulled on the switchgear and throttle and damaged them on one of my bikes. The Canyon Dancer 2 has supposedly fixed this, but I bought the CC before the CD2 came out, so I'm already set.

Bike in Baxley chock. Note the positive hook latch.



With Cycle Cynch and tiedowns in place.



Lastly, I tie the rear of the bike down. This serves two purposes. One, if you are carrying two bikes, or have limited clearance to the side of the bed, the rear of the bike will bounce around somewhat and can hit something. And if it can, it will. Second, if you are in an actual accident, you don't want the bike to flip over forward and crash into the top of the cab that you are sitting under. I do this in a couple of different ways, but my standard is to run a ratchet tie sideways across the rear of the bed, with a wrap around the rim/tire of the bike. Pad this with a rag and cinch it down only mildly tight. Sorry, don't have a pic.

Load the ramps, strap them down so they don't slide into the bike, and you're good to go. Should look something like this when you arrive at your destination. If the bike isn't still in the bed of the truck, vertical, you've done it wrong.



Enjoy the track!

KeS
__________________
Why do the pheasants have to conform but the royalty do not? -- Blurr

Last edited by kevin_stevens; 05-04-2011 at 03:54 AM.
kevin_stevens is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to kevin_stevens For This Useful Post:
Builtgypsy (05-04-2011)
Old 05-04-2011, 12:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
Gettin nowhere fast
Points: 30,672, Level: 100 Points: 30,672, Level: 100 Points: 30,672, Level: 100
Activity: 76% Activity: 76% Activity: 76%
 
NeedinJustice's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Palm Bay, Fl
Motorcycles': 07 Honda CBR 600RR White/silver/purple
Posts: 11,500
Casino cash: $125787
Rep Power: 14
NeedinJustice will become famous soon enough
Send a message via MSN to NeedinJustice
Default

Very useful, Kevin!
__________________
Jenn...just plain ole Jenn, or Sugar Kitten
A Mod in General

Secksipoleesta - RIP Jasonn - XOX
RIP Natasha - 1974-2012 - She's now carving the clouds with the Angels.


http://www.facebook.com/811Jenn
NeedinJustice is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 01:06 AM   #3 (permalink)
Economically Challenged
Points: 43,051, Level: 100 Points: 43,051, Level: 100 Points: 43,051, Level: 100
Activity: 51% Activity: 51% Activity: 51%
 
Alawicious's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NW Georgia
Motorcycles': GSXR 1000
Posts: 10,383
Casino cash: $106583
Rep Power: 13
Alawicious is on a distinguished road
Default

Well done sir
__________________
aka: SCOOBYLEESTA

Quote:
UberGoober
You know, my momma always said, "A ride in the forest is like a box of chocolates - you never know what you're gonna get around the next corner. But I'll tell you this, if its bad you're probably gonna make fudge in yer pants."
Alawicious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 04:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
Everything in Moderation
Points: 7,930, Level: 62 Points: 7,930, Level: 62 Points: 7,930, Level: 62
Activity: 43% Activity: 43% Activity: 43%
 
kevin_stevens's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: I'm right here!
Motorcycles': S1000RR, Buell 1125CR
Posts: 1,866
Casino cash: $26535
Rep Power: 4
kevin_stevens is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to kevin_stevens
Default

This is how to NOT do it, as far as I'm concerned.

YouTube - How To Load A Motorcycle Alone

Consider - this guy is *really* good at this. He's good enough that he wants to share his technique with people on YouTube. There's no flipping way I'd do this without dropping the bike four out of the first ten times I tried it, and I bet he couldn't do it 95% of the time - which means he'll drop the bike one out of every five trips to the track.

Maybe I'm either uncoordinated or a coward, but... so be it.

KeS
__________________
Why do the pheasants have to conform but the royalty do not? -- Blurr
kevin_stevens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 10:15 AM   #5 (permalink)
The Moose
Points: 5,236, Level: 49 Points: 5,236, Level: 49 Points: 5,236, Level: 49
Activity: 7% Activity: 7% Activity: 7%
 
GreyWolf's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Creston, Kalifornia
Motorcycles': '00 Triumph TT600
Posts: 841
Casino cash: $10970
Rep Power: 3
GreyWolf is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Yahoo to GreyWolf
Default

I usually just ask someone at the track to help me load up 'cause I got one of those skinny 6" arched ramps too! The other way I've found is I inadvertently purchased a ATV ramp which is wayyyyy different (doesn't have the arch as I found out after high siding my bottom fairing on it without anyone around to help out. That was my first pair of fairings I had to buy!). So, putting that side by side to the bike ramp I can now walk it up. I also use the straps from the ramps and hook them to the hooks in the back of my pickup. got pics around here someplace. When I get back home (I'm on a business trip right now) I'll dig 'em up and post.
But with a beauty of a bike like yours, sir, I would indeed invest in what you have come up with!!! Nicely done!
GreyWolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 10:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
Goofy Newfie
Points: 24,402, Level: 100 Points: 24,402, Level: 100 Points: 24,402, Level: 100
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
 
Electrical_Tech's Avatar
 
Hexxagon Champion!
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Newfoundland
Motorcycles': gots two kaws but no udders
Posts: 9,170
Casino cash: $98753
Rep Power: 12
Electrical_Tech is on a distinguished road
Default

I tried using my ATV ramps to load my ZZR to bring the bike to my road test. Sadly with the bike being lowered at the time, and the ramp angle being too steep, the lower fairing got scratched when the bike bottomed out .

So I ended up taking the 250 instead as it had the clearance required to get up in the truck.
Electrical_Tech is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 10:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
Joe
Pro Racer
Points: 7,629, Level: 61 Points: 7,629, Level: 61 Points: 7,629, Level: 61
Activity: 3% Activity: 3% Activity: 3%
 
Joe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: At the end of the earth
Motorcycles': fz6
Posts: 2,231
Casino cash: $21643
Rep Power: 5
Joe is on a distinguished road
Default

Another how not too. actually this is how always loaded dirt bikes in my younger days, just a bit slower

YouTube - KTM Crashes into back of 93 Dodge
Joe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 10:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
Gettin nowhere fast
Points: 30,672, Level: 100 Points: 30,672, Level: 100 Points: 30,672, Level: 100
Activity: 76% Activity: 76% Activity: 76%
 
NeedinJustice's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Palm Bay, Fl
Motorcycles': 07 Honda CBR 600RR White/silver/purple
Posts: 11,500
Casino cash: $125787
Rep Power: 14
NeedinJustice will become famous soon enough
Send a message via MSN to NeedinJustice
Default

Tard!
__________________
Jenn...just plain ole Jenn, or Sugar Kitten
A Mod in General

Secksipoleesta - RIP Jasonn - XOX
RIP Natasha - 1974-2012 - She's now carving the clouds with the Angels.


http://www.facebook.com/811Jenn
NeedinJustice is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 10:32 AM   #9 (permalink)
Goofy Newfie
Points: 24,402, Level: 100 Points: 24,402, Level: 100 Points: 24,402, Level: 100
Activity: 99% Activity: 99% Activity: 99%
 
Electrical_Tech's Avatar
 
Hexxagon Champion!
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Newfoundland
Motorcycles': gots two kaws but no udders
Posts: 9,170
Casino cash: $98753
Rep Power: 12
Electrical_Tech is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe View Post
Another how not too. actually this is how always loaded dirt bikes in my younger days, just a bit slower

YouTube - KTM Crashes into back of 93 Dodge
Is that the one where he jumps the bike into the back of a cargo van? That had to hurt ...
Electrical_Tech is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2011, 10:33 AM   #10 (permalink)
The Moose
Points: 5,236, Level: 49 Points: 5,236, Level: 49 Points: 5,236, Level: 49
Activity: 7% Activity: 7% Activity: 7%
 
GreyWolf's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Creston, Kalifornia
Motorcycles': '00 Triumph TT600
Posts: 841
Casino cash: $10970
Rep Power: 3
GreyWolf is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Yahoo to GreyWolf
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Electrical_Tech View Post
I tried using my ATV ramps to load my ZZR to bring the bike to my road test. Sadly with the bike being lowered at the time, and the ramp angle being too steep, the lower fairing got scratched when the bike bottomed out .

So I ended up taking the 250 instead as it had the clearance required to get up in the truck.
Yeah, mine highsided and no one was around so I just went ahead and forced it up. *Crack* and there goes the bottom (which meant both side fairings needed replacement!). I use the ATV ramp as my ladder and the Bike ramp for the bike now. Ahhhh, life's little lessons, eh?
GreyWolf is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to GreyWolf For This Useful Post:
Electrical_Tech (05-04-2011)
Reply

Tags
bike, ending, load, pickup, youtube


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0