Uh Oh......Hybrid needs help!!!

[Hybrid]

Well not help but ideas.

Rode the bike home in the rain today, hella hard raining no less. The brakes fucking sucked!

I mean pull them to the fucking bar and they didnt bite for shit. Had to pump them up.

2nd time this has happened in a rain trip..........never experienced it before.

So its either the system getting water in it or the pads hate wet weather and need hot rotors to work.

Im going with second idea first cause the work fine in the dry or even mild rain but the good rain storms have me cringing.

PERFORMANCE FRICTION PADS
STAINLESS LINES
STOCK ROTORS

anyone else have it happen? Ideas? This isnt typical and not something I want to try to duplicate. Today sucked bad enough

[kman458]

I am guessing that the pad/rotors are not the best set up for heavy rain but then again you knew that. I can not say I have had this problem before. It's not like the Kawasaki has solid discs.

[Electrical_Tech]

Rotors / pads aren't glazed are they? I guess that would cause bad braking all round ..

[jschmidt]

How old is your bike?

Just get new pads. Stainless rotors are not great in the rain, but I think you'll be suprised how much new pads will help. Don't get racing pads, though. Get a street compound.

[Scissors]

Originally Posted by jschmidt

How old is your bike?

Just get new pads. Stainless rotors are not great in the rain, but I think you'll be suprised how much new pads will help. Don't get racing pads, though. Get a street compound.

+1

Street pads are designed for superior grip at temperatures that street bikes tend to actually see, versus the much higher temperatures that racebike rotors/pads reach.

Slotted (not drilled) rotors can also help in wet conditions.

[Hybrid]

a couple of you act like I know shit about what happens to brakes, Im trying to engage some conversation and see if anyone has ever had a set of brakes fade so bad they were actually nervous about them.

There is no way that this pad set up is that bad that they litterally disappear.

Im gonna call the tech guys at PF and see what they say, Im fucking amazed at the total vanishing of the brakes. It was like being on carbon carbon brakes that Ive gotten to test just for the hell of it.

Carbon 2 carbon were atrocious and thats why they used to have covers over the rotors.........felt like that.

The brakes are awesome in dry wet weather but it concerns me that a readily available pad would be so tempermental in wet conditions.

[jschmidt]

Originally Posted by Hybrid

a couple of you act like I know shit about what happens to brakes, Im trying to engage some conversation and see if anyone has ever had a set of brakes fade so bad they were actually nervous about them.

There is no way that this pad set up is that bad that they litterally disappear.

Im gonna call the tech guys at PF and see what they say, Im fucking amazed at the total vanishing of the brakes. It was like being on carbon carbon brakes that Ive gotten to test just for the hell of it.

Carbon 2 carbon were atrocious and thats why they used to have covers over the rotors.........felt like that.

The brakes are awesome in dry wet weather but it concerns me that a readily available pad would be so tempermental in wet conditions.

I have two disk brake bikes from the 70s. Back then, this sort of degradation was common. Thanks to modern compounds these bikes are not nearly as bad in the wet.

In your case, it sounds like you went out of the temp range. That'd be my guess. It's also possible that you ran through a water-diesel puddle without realizing it.

What actual pads are you running?

[Hybrid]

Performance friction I think the compound is 99

Ive used these pads for almost 15 years and never felt this fade. I swear the mastercylinder felt like it wasnt even there...........to the bar Jim.......to the bar.

Pumping made them better........but its only under severe wet conditions.

[kman458]

Originally Posted by Hybrid

Performance friction I think the compound is 99

Ive used these pads for almost 15 years and never felt this fade. I swear the mastercylinder felt like it wasnt even there...........to the bar Jim.......to the bar.

Pumping made them better........but its only under severe wet conditions.

Sounds like air in the lines but no way rain would cause that or the master cylinder took a dump on you but again that would not be caused by rain and would act the same in the dry.

[Gaolee]

Originally Posted by Hybrid

a couple of you act like I know shit about what happens to brakes, Im trying to engage some conversation and see if anyone has ever had a set of brakes fade so bad they were actually nervous about them.

I had brakes which would fade to nothing halfway through a race on a . I rebuilt everything and just bled 'em before and after every session to solve the problem. I hated that bike.